Parking ban in Lincolnshire

[pauls59@yahoo.co.uk]

Lincolnshire Council Coastal and Countryside > Coastal country park;
Overnight parking

View a public notice of our intention to revoke the byelaws.

Byelaws prohibit overnight parking (between 10pm and 6am) at the following coastal car parks:
Anderby Creek
Wolla Bank
Marsh Yard
Moggs Eye
Huttoft Car Terrace
Chapel Six Marshes
We are no longer issuing new or renewing overnight fishing car parking passes due to the forthcoming introduction of car park charging at the coastal car parks. One element of the new system is the prohibition of overnight parking, which will result in a parking fine issued to anyone contravening the regulations. Before we are able to consider issuing fishing overnight parking passes, a number of back office technical issues need to be ironed out. We apologise for any disruption this causes.
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Lincolnshire County Council
Byelaws (Alternative Procedure) (England) Regulations 2016
Notice is hereby given that Lincolnshire County Council intends to revoke the following
byelaw:
Byelaw made under section 164 of the Public Health Act 1875 by the Lincolnshire
County Council with respect to Pleasure Grounds, Public Walks and Open Spaces
The byelaw affects the following Lincolnshire County Council car parks:
• Huttoft Car Terrace, Sea Lane (East) Huttoft, LN13 9RR
• Marsh Yard Car Park – off Roman Bank, Huttoft, LN13 9RT
• Moggs Eye Car Park – off Roman Bank, Anderby, PE24 5XJ
• Anderby Creek Car Park, Sea Road, Anderby Creek, PE24 5XX
• Wolla Bank Car Park, off Anderby Road, Anderby, PE24 5XH, and
• Chapel Six Marsh Car Park, off Anderby Road, Chapel St Leonards, PE24 5XG

Copies of the above-mentioned draft Revocation Order and relevant plans have been
deposited and may be seen at all reasonable hours free of charge at the offices of
Lincolnshire County Council, County Offices, Newland, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, LN1 1YS.
Documents will also be able to view on the council's website at www.lincolnshire.gov.uk.
Written representations in respect of the proposed revocation of the Byelawshould be
sent to the following email address: martha.rees@lincolnshire.gov.uk or posted to the
following address:
FAO Martha Rees, Legal Services Lincolnshire, Lincolnshire County Council, County
Offices, Newland, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, LN1 1YS.
All representations must be received by 16 September 2021

R E V O C A T I O N B Y E L A W
LINCOLNSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL
REVOCATION BYELAW NO.1234
Byelaw made under section 164 of the Public Health Act 1875 by the Lincolnshire
County Council with respect to Pleasure Grounds, Public Walks and Open Spaces
REVOCATION
The byelaws made by the Lincolnshire County Council on 24 April 2013 and
confirmed by the Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government on 24
September 2013 are revoked.
The Common Seal Of )
LINCOLNSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL )
was hereunto affixed this )
of 2021 in the presence of )
Authorised Signatory


Meeting of Planning and Regulation Committee, Monday 6th September 2021. Item 5.1 Supporting Documents.
Appendix A Lincolnshire Coast -Proposed off street parking .
Link:
https://lincolnshire.moderngov.co.uk/do ... yrB4G1UL-w


Link to Coastal Country Park - Coastal Access Car Parking Charges - Potential Fishing & Residential Permits, item 5.1 PFD>

https://lincolnshire.moderngov.co.uk/do ... dv4igdnBJw


This document states:
'The Councils contracted enforcement agent, APCOA, will not issue a PCN to any vehicle displaying such a permit that is under 6m in length.'

[Zoe]

Please see attached document I have just received from Lincolnshire County Council
LINCOLNSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL
(OFF-STREET PARKING PLACES) ORDER 2021

The key points contained within are:

12. No person shall use any part of a parking place or any vehicle left in a parking place:-
(a) for sleeping or camping purpose; 

(b) for eating or cooking purposes.



15. In a parking place no person shall:-
(a) erected or cause or permit to be erected any tent, booth, stand, building or other structure without the written consent of the Council 

(b) light or cause or permit to be lit any fire 

(c) use a parking place for a caravan (or motorhome over 6.0m in length)

[Zoe]

I have set up a Change.org online petition to Lincolnshire County Council asking them to allow daytime parking for vehicles over 6m in length.

Admin note:
CAMpRA do not support petitions so please do not sign the petition as a member of CAMpRA if you sign any petition please do so as an individual.

https://chng.it/NqNtrYqc66

[JLO]

Can anyone tell me why these posts are in the East Midlands forum and not Lincolnshire? Am I posting in the wrong group?

[Steve]

The Lincolnshire campaign group is a hidden forum for campaign group members only, post in East Midlands are open to anyone to view.

[JLO]

Hi guys. I’ve had a very good meeting with Lincolnshire County Council today.

With regard to Huttoft and the parking ban of vans over 6 metres nothing is going to change at the moment. They are conducive to further talks with me and have given me names of people I can discuss things with. I can’t say too much at the moment but as a member of CAMpRA leadership team I need to build up a working relationship with them and that takes time, patience and diplomacy.

I have also had a meeting with ELDC in June to discuss these issues. I am talking to them too and as soon as I have anything concrete to tell you I will, but I would ask for now no more letters, things are being discussed in the background and we don’t want to muddy the waters. They do know about and have noted the contents of the emails which have been sent.

Thanks for understanding.

[SlowG]

The signs have gone up this week in the beach car parks. All over 6m banned full stop. Parking charges also comes into effect for those smaller vehicles. Start date as mentioned previously, 1st Nov.

[Steve]

We are talking to the council, the bans will remain due to the small size of the car parks but they are open to suggestions for possible Aires

[kumar]

My email to Sally Dodds, Head of Events at Warners-shows.co.uk


Sally

Good morning.

It must be really disappointing to read this in the Lincolnshire Live

New charges and overnight parking ban at East Coast car parks


Lincolnshire County Council says that no vehicles will be able to use its facilities throughout the evening.

Lincolnshire County Council says that no vehicles will be able to use its facilities throughout the evening

w.e.f. 1st November:
Lincolnshire County Council says that no vehicles will be able to use its facilities throughout the night, whilst vehicles over six metres in length won't be able to use them at all.

The areas affected will be tourist spots in Skegness, Chapel St Leonards and Huttoft, including Anderby Creek, Moggs Eye, Huttoft, Marsh Yard, Six Marshes and Wolla Bank, along the east coast of Lincolnshire.


This from a Council who are very happy for you to set up your End Of Season show, within their county at the local Showgrounds, take the monies of your visitors, when they spend locally in the economy, BUT, are not prepared to provide facilities. Here there will be many local dealers and others showing off their wares, yet THEIR customers are about to be denied the pleasure of enjoying their purchases locally.

The council says it is willing to work with local residents to find the right solutions for the areas.
What about working with the other stakeholders, - the dealers and users.

Councillor Colin Davie added: "As these sites have become more popular, increasingly they are frequented by motorhome users". "The oversized nature of these vehicles has led to more incidences of obstructive parking, and greatly reduces the space available for other visitors to the beach.

Graham Fisher, chairman of Anderby Parish Council, said: "This is absolutely a win-win for us and can't come too soon."

"The council has already helped by putting double yellow lines in the village, and now a managed car park will make such a difference.

"We've been asking for this for a while, so I'm really pleased to see that the county council are bringing in these better regulations which we know will benefit both visitors and residents alike."

I wonder how the councillor will feel when the Motorhome and Campervan Community, decide to stay away from Lincolnshire. It wont be a 'WIN-WIN' for Anderby Parish Council then, or any other local Parish Council, and the relevant economies. .

It is a grim picture of what is happening across the country, thanks in part to the pandemic we are in, the uptake of new motorhome and campervan ownership, staycationing, and sever lack of facilities for touring motorhomes and campervans, outside of commercial campsites.

What are the dealer's and promoter's going to do? They are the 'seller's of these 'oversized, and unwanted vehicles'.

Perhaps, stand up for your clients: - push councils to provide more motorhome stopover and service points, consider informing Lincolnshire Council, this will be your last year holding the End of season show in their area.




Mr Paul Simpson
7 Newtown Crescent
Newtownards
N. Ireland
BT23 7GP



Response from Sally Dodds, of Warners.


Dear Mr Simpson

I cannot comment on Lincolnshire Council however, I would expect it is not that they don’t want motorhomes in the county, there are many beautiful camp sites, it is just where they park.

Lincolnshire Council do not own the showground and Warners is obviously a private company. It is the motorhomes/ caravans arriving before the gates open that park in laybys and private roads that the local authorities and residents want to deter. Not the actual camping on the purpose built camp sites in the area.

We do find this with many of our venues, not just Lincolnshire.

Regards

Sally Dodds
Head of Events

It’s the lack of practical stopover options near events and attractions. Restricting parking without alternatives simply drives motorhome visitors away and harms local trade.

[Madcaravanner]

This is the English Councils way of solving a problem van it so it doesn't exist
One day they may think differently but until then we have to keep explaining to them that they are not helping